Why base builder is dead

5150kaboom wrote:^^^ I Love it.. These rules are easy enough to follow and easy to enforce, but more importantly gives new players a chance to get into bases that are otherwise impossible to get into if you are a new bee (I.E. 99block entrances where new players just give up right away out of frustration and in some cases don't even believe it's possible to get in) Big Ups to JoPapa! I really believe that with these rules we can get the server back to normal population and maybe even beyond.

5150kaboom wrote:

The rules must be changed..
1. NO MORE 99 BLOCK ENTRANCES (no obstacles at tunnel entrances)
2. NO Obstacles on Airbases / Back to 2 per airbase

Anyone can think of anything else to add to this list? To be honest I think those two rule changes would pretty much fix the server pop. New players who have never even seen BB can come play and have a fair chance.

j0p@p@ wrote:How about the rules look something like this? Please leave comments and thoughts for changes or dislikes for what i did. But i wanted to put down what i feel the rules should look like.


#1 All bases must have at least one way in/out. No inaccessible bases.
-----a. Meaning I should be able to get in and out of your base without having to boost

#2 All bases must touch the ground, meaning:
-----a. You must stay above the blocks supporting your base
-----b. Breaking this rule is called Island camping "made this change cause i think the wall should count as the ground making jump bases a little easier to make"

#3 Do not block zombie spawn, including
-----a. No preventing zombies from leaving
-----b. No tunnels, mazes or making it difficult to get out

#4 Absolutely no building in the survivor spawn area. This includes:
-----a. Placing pieces and then /fixspawn 'ing to be unreachable (See rule #1)
-----b. Placing pieces to abuse the ct spawn force field.

#5 Do not touch other players pieces.
-----a. If they are actively building a base do not take them.
-----b. If they've built a base, do not destroy their base.


#5.1 Tunnels can't be longer than 3 medium pieces long. Non-jumping tunnels can't be longer than two. Air bases can be as tall as the map permits.

#5.2 Obstacles on air bases and ground entrances are not permited. "To make bases more bearable to do"

#5.3 No KZ bases. This means no strafe jumps. Long jumps are permited. "I think long jumps should be permited cause almost everyone can long jump but strafe jumps are a lot harder"

#5.4 No "surf" bases. These are ½ tunnels that take FOREVER to get through.

#5.5 Bases can not share the same entrance. This includes tunnels and stairs to tree-houses.

#5.6 No blocking bases. Tunnels or other bases where only one zombie at a time can go in.

#5.7 Air and ground bases share the same ratio for how many can be in/on them. "To balance for no obstacles"

#6 Number of CT's per base will not exceed more than one-third the number of zombies at round start. This is when the build time is up, at ~6:30 Example:

-----a. If there are 9, 10 11 zombies, only 3 CT's per base. Round down, not up.

-----b. Exceptions can be if there are fewer than 6 per team 3 , 9 zombies / 2 = CT's allowed per base.Round down, not up.

-----c. the # per base is non negotiable. I dont care if your arent shooting, 3 means 3.

#7 No moving blocks off the map. (We understand that accidents happen.) This is a perm ban offense.

#8 No putting pieces on players so they can't move.

#9 No FreeJumping. Zombies must go after the CT's, not plan their bases, jump around aimlessly, go AFK or try to climb up/into abandoned bases (unless these bases have a way into another base) --this includes tea partying -aka- zombies not killing CT's and vice versa when in their base under normal circumstances.

#9.1 Do not kill yourself. Don't do this to avoid getting killed by the opposite team.

#9.2 No reconnecting to get yourself on survivors team the next round. Yes it sucks when you die right away, it just means you have to do better. Sometimes the server will kick you for "Reason: Z" and that's fine, just connect again but don't keep reconnecting to get on your team. If an admin is present ask them to switch you. Excessive reconnecting is a banable offense.

#10 Be respectful of your fellow players. No excessive swearing, no spamming the mic or text.

#11 Be respectful of the admins. They're there to help you.


Not a lot of changes but i think it will make a big difference.

laughyguy wrote:

5150kaboom wrote:

The rules must be changed..
1. NO MORE 99 BLOCK ENTRANCES (no obstacles at tunnel entrances)
2. NO Obstacles on Airbases / Back to 2 per airbase

Anyone can think of anything else to add to this list? To be honest I think those two rule changes would pretty much fix the server pop. New players who have never even seen BB can come play and have a fair chance.

I agree with what everyone is saying. I especially like this one as i was thinking about this the whole time i was reading everyones comments.

I'm not very known around BB
But i have been playing since pretty much the beginning, not the beginning, but around there.

See the thing is I do play a lot. I know all about 99 black entrances, and for me its easy to get into. I just find that when i base with a newbie, they can't get in and i feel so bad. I remember the tunnels with no tricky entrances, and all you did was crouch to enter. you never worried about dieing before the time finished because it was simple to get in, all you needed was to make sure it was all closed up and possible.
So i do agree with what you said, but as everyone else said, that takes away a lot of room for creativity. Thus, people get bored. I don't believe this is a very easy fix, yet i don't believe its complicated. I'm more than happy seeing everyone working together trying to get BB back in action.

What ever we do we should act fast, because we can. Its summer, anyone who has no job and is in school probably has a lot more time on their hands. Plus no one is really excessively playing BB at the moment, or in the near future, thus it gives us a chance to change BB, even if it means taking down the server for a bit. In the long run we will get more people.

My idea for tunnels is, maybe we can make it that if you do have 99 block entrance, we could make it a rule to make it jump-able, but at the same time having a rule to limit the amount of pieces.

Just my thoughts hope anything is useful.

add oil [no sound] wrote:hi everybody!
I haven't played bb in god knows how long because i've been too busy playing League of Legends =D (add me: mr aons ) but I come across forums every now and then and thought I'd add something and that i kinda forgot my steam password LOL. Back when bb just started, bases were simple, yet still manageable! What made it fun, in my opinion, wasn't so much the creativity, it was the teamwork it took to make such a simple 2 tunnel base, work. Yeah sure some people weren't all that great and messed up the shooting rotations, but it was fun.

Creativity is also fun, creating new bases and what not, but its hard to make new bases without them being illegal. Now, I'm not dissing the rules in any way, I totally agree with all of them, but for me, creativity didn't keep me in the game.

When I first started, all guns were up for grabs and there was only one kind of zombie which had 2000hp. None of this credit/buying stuff that made people, unfortunately like me (I admit i was part of the problem..), start making bs bases with those stupid entrances and those tight corners to edge around on the treehouse. Yeah, I got greedy, BUT I truly believe that although credits are a good idea, it creates a kind of situation in which people are working rather than playing for credits. - well for me at least

Although I'm a fan of looking into the future and improving, looking at the history of this server from as long as I've been playing, there's a noticeable difference. In the past, there were 2k hp zombies, and free guns; on the other hand, now, there's a credit system with different zombie classes. Difference being the server population. What if all these changes were what drove everyone away? I think I've suggested this before, but there was some vote thing going on and nobody else wanted to "backtrack." Do you guys think that things could turn around (in the positive direction) if we made basebuilder what it was when it first started? All guns free, 2k hp zombies, no credits, simple 2 tunnel bases.

That may sound boring, but rather than concentrating on creativity, we can concentrate on enjoying the fact that even though your base was exactly the same as your neighbors, you and your teammate held out the longest. That has always been satisfying enough for me when I played bb.