Why base builder is dead

RasKal wrote:Why is BB server dead? It's self-explanatory.

All the original members all left
Non-existence staff/head-admin
99% rule breakers with no admins in site
All old rules are outdated
Rules that doesn't make sense.-99block entrance isn't a obstacle
All gun overpowered
Nade - 1hitko | Deagle - 1hitko
Tirant is gone, so no one cares for server

I liked the structure back then:
Owner - Tirant
Head Admin / Buddies of Tirant - Gomer / Cam
Secondary Admin - RasKal, Kaboom
Referred admins - J0papa
Referred player - Snipahz

People actually respected this structure. Everyone knew the admins and rule was obeyed. Everyone spoke the rules to anyone rule breaking. Rule was always changing, but slowly and perfectly. It went with the flow of the gameplay. I miss back then. A lot of stuck with Tirant till the end. When he became in-active. Most of us left.

You all know you want the old structure back. The popular server that was #1 and always in everyone's mind.

If Anon needs my help. Tell one of the PCShop admins to PM me.

Anon wrote:My personal favorite is how pcshop was dead and we wern't listening so on to bigger and better things. Then after a few months (as with everyone else seemingly) they come back, but only thing different this time is the derogatory posts.

It makes me giggle inside.



However, on a more serious note:

The point of why people in bb are gone, is not because of the "server structure" (imo) it's because that as gomer stated, theres no creativity. And by creativity let me specify my definiton of "creativity" of: fun, yet still generally deemed possibly by the overall bb community of players. NOT: a "LOLITSSTILLTECHNICALLYPOSSIBLENOOBS" base, but a base that players after a couple of tries can think to themselves "Oh yeah, one of these bases, I have to do this to get in." Not a "Oh yeah fuck-hole over there built his impossible base that you have to do this stupid shit that not your average cs bb player can do... so fuck that base, I'll just free jump instead LOL." <- And hence why bb gets boring because cts sit in their base, zombies don't try, and then people leave because no one wants to stare at your partner in a base listening to everyone scream over mic and spam the hell outta chat: "ZOMBIES STOP FREE JUMPING ZOMG!!111111111oneoneon!!!11!"

So in short, I agree with the lack of "creativity" only with the definition of "creativity" being that people don't rage quit bb because something is "technically possible."

Now, don't get me wrong, I love a challenging base just as much, if not more than the next person, but when it's just ridiculous (as some of the current bases are) there's just no point... because some of them... even if cts AREN'T shooting at you, one can still easily spend the entire round just trying to figure the ENTRANCE (let alone the rest of the damned base) out - WITHOUT avail - let alone, having your screen constantly shake and flash red / spurts of blood from the bullets when they ARE shooting at you.

Also, admittedly it's hilarious as a CT to watch zombies fail at your base again and again, but after a while it gets boring. Also, as a zombie, it gets frustrating, so it's no real wonder why zombies free jump with the current bases, and why (after a while) it gets boring for BOTH sides real quick.

Now that we've established why it's boring, and why people rage quit, continue that process for a few days / weeks with the same people and they just get tired of rage quitting, so they just don't join the server anymore because it's just the same thing, over and over and over and over and over and over (you get my point) again: aka server population decline.

NOW take that same principle of while people leave, and apply it to the current (and past admins) getting tired of "LOLTECHNICALLYSTILLPOSSIBLEBASES" so they can't do much about it, and spending you're whole round as a ct listening to everyone scream "ZOMGFREEJUMPERS!!111" And with no zombies trying... there's really no point to even joining the server because why? It's just not fun anymore for the many many reasons listed above.

AND THEN, so now that we've lost the current and past admins of the server the REST of the REMAINING players also rage quit and don't want to buy admin because of the SAME reasons (just compounding the rule breaker problem)... add infinitum and VIOLA!!!! The server has no people! And the few who remain, just break rules causing the even FEWER who still join to either resort to the same, or just leave and never come back!!!

Wow... it's like magic.


Seriously, it's not that hard to understand.

And as for the rule changes in your other post raskal, I've asked you time and time again, SEND me a list of your proposed rule changes and I'll check them out! But as always, whine whine whine, but no effort in on the whiners part. Let me say it again, I'm always up for new ideas and suggestions, hell I think it's time (a long time ago) something happened, but with me being so busy, I ask for input from people and nothing comes back but QQQQQQQQQQQQQsauce.

Maybe a little less time eating the cheese and whine, ...put the QQ down... and put some effort in eh? SEND ME SOME SUGGESTIONS... I've been willing to look at the rules ANY time someone ever said something.. And I'm not "PMing you because you probably won't be checking the forums" I know better than that, you'll be checking the forums because you can't help yourself. It's why you're back here. You came to me, I'm not coming to you.

So... let's see them then eh?

Fuzzy Bear wrote:sometimes when i go in I play some time and the people just leave speacially when everyone is from the same clan thats just frustrating, I have to agree on some points gomer has stated such as when he says that when some creativity shows up some people reject it because they think its illegal, thats everyones favorite word "illegal base" everywhere, maybe we should be more flexible and let some kinds of new bases.

Anon wrote:"...a base that players after a couple of tries can think to themselves "Oh yeah, one of these bases, I have to do this to get in." Not a "Oh yeah fuck-hole over there built his impossible base that you have to do this stupid shit that not your average cs bb player can do... so fuck that base, I'll just free jump instead LOL." <- And hence why bb gets boring because cts sit in their base, zombies don't try, and then people leave because no one wants to stare at your partner in a base listening to everyone scream over mic and spam the hell outta chat: "ZOMBIES STOP FREE JUMPING ZOMG!!111111111oneoneon!!!11!"

5150kaboom wrote:

Anon wrote:"...a base that players after a couple of tries can think to themselves "Oh yeah, one of these bases, I have to do this to get in." Not a "Oh yeah fuck-hole over there built his impossible base that you have to do this stupid shit that not your average cs bb player can do... so fuck that base, I'll just free jump instead LOL." <- And hence why bb gets boring because cts sit in their base, zombies don't try, and then people leave because no one wants to stare at your partner in a base listening to everyone scream over mic and spam the hell outta chat: "ZOMBIES STOP FREE JUMPING ZOMG!!111111111oneoneon!!!11!"

This sums up 95% of why there's no players in BB. So lets stay focused on the main problem and forget the small talk.

LISTEN UP PEOPLE THIS IS AN EASY FIX!

The rules must be changed..
1. NO MORE 99 BLOCK ENTRANCES (no obstacles at tunnel entrances)
2. NO Obstacles on Airbases / Back to 2 per airbase

Anyone can think of anything else to add to this list? To be honest I think those two rule changes would pretty much fix the server pop. New players who have never even seen BB can come play and have a fair chance.

5150kaboom wrote:

Anon wrote:"...a base that players after a couple of tries can think to themselves "Oh yeah, one of these bases, I have to do this to get in." Not a "Oh yeah fuck-hole over there built his impossible base that you have to do this stupid shit that not your average cs bb player can do... so fuck that base, I'll just free jump instead LOL." <- And hence why bb gets boring because cts sit in their base, zombies don't try, and then people leave because no one wants to stare at your partner in a base listening to everyone scream over mic and spam the hell outta chat: "ZOMBIES STOP FREE JUMPING ZOMG!!111111111oneoneon!!!11!"

This sums up 95% of why there's no players in BB. So lets stay focused on the main problem and forget the small talk.

LISTEN UP PEOPLE THIS IS AN EASY FIX!

The rules must be changed..
1. NO MORE 99 BLOCK ENTRANCES (no obstacles at tunnel entrances)
2. NO Obstacles on Airbases / Back to 2 per airbase

Anyone can think of anything else to add to this list? To be honest I think those two rule changes would pretty much fix the server pop. New players who have never even seen BB can come play and have a fair chance.

j0p@p@ wrote:
1. 0nly 4 pieces can be used to make a entrance with obstacles.
2. No part of a tunnel can slow crouch speed
3. Air bases can only have two obstacles that you have to sidestep to get by.

Or

1. 0nly 4 pieces can be used to make a entrance with obstacles.
2. No part of a tunnel can slow crouch speed.
3. Air bases can not have any obstacles.
4. Air bases share the same ratio as ground bases.

Either of these will bring some balance to how difficult a base can be. But i do not think totally taking it away is good cause then bases are too easy. Just my thoughts on it.