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    Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Guest on Wed 11 May 2011, 8:14 pm

    Hi,

    Hello PCSHOP Gaming community Smile Some of you probably know me already but those who haven't, my name is Nikki, ingame name Aleya RockPrincess. I am the owner of Colosseum gaming community. My community has been up on its 5th year now. I'm not sure if I can say the website here, but if I'm not allowed to do so, moderators feel free to delete or edit the website domain from this post. The community currently hosts 80 servers and 18 clans playing various games mostly CS 1.6, MW2, DOD and minecraft. We are currently the leading community in cs 1.6 based on server amount and incoming traffic, but that doesn't mean anything to me if we can't deliver the best of quality to our players. PCSHOP has one of the best quality servers with amazing mods, so I have great respect for it, thanks to Tirant for coding mods like Basebuilder and ModernWarfare!.

    The reason why I'm writing this post is because I am interested in taking ownership of PCSHOP and have Tirant alongside working with me to improve this community over months to come. As most of you know, Tirant and Dave has worked really hard on this Community ever since it was establish and saw how much it has improved over recent months. I don't want to simply just take ownership and change everything or make money out of this community. My plan is to keep things the way it is, the same admins, the same management, the same ways you guys have been running this, the same rules, the same servers and forum..and constantly work with Tirant on every aspect of this community.

    I was told by Tirant to write the proposal in this forum so here I am with my proposal. Tirant seems to agree and support me of this matter, but like every other owner, we say it is the community that makes the final decision, and I hereby wants to seek acknowledgement and approval from you guys.

    My proposal is just preliminary, but we can always add more to it or remove some as necessary. So here they are:


    1. I claim full ownership and acccess of PCSHOP servers & forum but runs the management side closely with Tirant.

    2. Me and Tirant will open few more servers for PCSHOP community. Here, Tirant will get access to one of my dedicated server in Chicago so that he can work on the new PCSHOP servers.

    3. Colosseum Community which consists of 18 clans (SKe, AiC, sS, FeX, nA, bA, eC, NG2, Wildcard, RoD, pz, V!S, Mafia, Hp, SKg, NeX, sG, NiMH) will ally with PCSHOP. However PCSHOP wont be under Colosseum but rather next to it as an immediate partner. This makes me own 2 communities instead of one Very Happy

    4. All hatred must be dealt with meaning no such hatred should evolve between PCSHOP and any of the Colossuem Clans. As partners, we will always help each other striving to improve. If any clan members from pcshop or colosseum found trash talking each other, they will receive the appropriate punishment.

    5. I will pay at least 50% of all the PCSHOP bills. If there are any other external bills that may exist in the near future, we can always use the Colosseum Financial Reserves to take care of it. Colosseum Financial Reserves is where I put all the profit money in generated from Colosseum donations. Colosseum Financial reserves is primary used to pay immediate and important bills.

    6. We have a webhosting provider. They are currently a sponsor of Colosseum. So if needed, they can provide fastdownload or any form of webhosting account to PCSHOP as well for free. But PCSHOP would need to recognize them, place a banner of our host or something.

    7. Other sponsors may also be sponsors to PCSHOP. These sponsors provide extra income to the community as well.

    8. In terms of management, I like things to be the way it is. No changes or whatsoever in the management side of PCSHOP. However, I do want to propose that we somehow connect with Colosseum. This means that some PCSHOP members can admin colosseum servers, and some colosseum clan members can admin PCSHOP servers. In terms of punishment, clan member go by the community rules that he is in. Which means, lets say an SKe admin who is adminning the PCSHOP is found abusing, he will receive punishment as stated and created by PCSHOP. Likewise tp PCSHOP admins thats adminning SKe servers.

    9. I will need to add all the high rank PCSHOP staffs so I can work with you guys. I was told that Tirant has been busy with life and coding, so I believe I can play an important part here organizing and managing PCSHOP.

    10. Last but not least, advertising between PCSHOP and Colosseum is to be allowed. Meaning I will advertise PCSHOP servers on Colosseum, and on PCSHOP, I will advertise the Colosseum clan servers.


    That's all for now. I hope with my presence, and with hard work from you guys as well, we can improve this Community alongside with Colosseum. While we witness other community going down, it is vital to ensure the survival by our community. We have to work hard. We wont see the accomplishment and improvement on this very day, but trust me, in give it 6 months, and you will see the difference.

    Yours truly,
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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Tirant on Wed 11 May 2011, 8:31 pm

    I told her if she wants to propose this idea, she needed to do it to you guys and not me, because it's your community, I'm just a face. If you guys want this to happen, then I'll support your decision.


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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by strawberry face on Wed 11 May 2011, 8:48 pm

    No thanks from me, we are fine how we are. We have been fucked over before, sorry nothing against you, it's just that I don't trust ANYONE now.
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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by JIRK on Wed 11 May 2011, 8:52 pm

    Anti-Vouch. i agree with strawberry. i think we are fine as we are.

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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Guest on Wed 11 May 2011, 9:03 pm

    No worries guys Smile. But I really hope you can consider. Tirant and I can work together to bring this community forward..and a lot of my members are looking forward to this. Anyhow, keep up the good work!. All of us from Colosseum have always made positive remarks on your servers Smile
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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by squareknot20 on Wed 11 May 2011, 9:18 pm

    SEE OTHER FUCKIN POST SON


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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Ki-Lier on Wed 11 May 2011, 9:19 pm

    who the fuck are you and why should i care?


    gimmie a TL;DR of what you writen above...
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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Anon on Wed 11 May 2011, 9:31 pm

    Absolutely not.

    I think we learned our lesson with the last merge.

    Not to mention as stated above that we are doing just fine on our own.

    "If it ain't broke don't fix it."

    No offense "Nikki" but we as a community stand alone and we get the work done.

    Defiantly a BIG anti vouch.


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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by LOLWUT on Wed 11 May 2011, 9:36 pm

    I'm pretty cozy where I am. Thanks for the proposal anyways. Smile


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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Divinity' on Wed 11 May 2011, 9:38 pm

    For you in PC-Shop. I am active SKE member and I also disagree to this because

    1) Colosseum and PCshop should remain two communitys because they have their own set of rules/structure and once your in a community its like a family. Merging like this will only cause problems

    2) Alot of SKE community admins have slight immaturity (no diss to aleya). What I have seen PCshop have strict admins who follow to code. I dont think SKE admins would be able to work with how PCshop runs

    3) Tirant is doing a good job and all his staff is able to do what is needed to keep it up and running. No need to take over complete ownership to change nothing?

    4) I believe one of the main reasons this is beneficial for PCshop is because Aleya will be paying 50% of bills + giving free servers

    5) Once/If aleya cant continue with her contract this will end in failure ultimately leading in pcshop getting the bad end of the deal.

    I have posted a similar post on SKE forums but directed towards aleya. I know im not a PCSHOP member but I do play the servers and feel this is unnneded
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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Anon on Wed 11 May 2011, 9:40 pm

    Divinity' wrote:For you in PC-Shop. I am active SKE member and I also disagree to this because

    1) Colosseum and PCshop should remain two communitys because they have their own set of rules/structure and once your in a community its like a family. Merging like this will only cause problems

    2) Alot of SKE community admins have slight immaturity (no diss to aleya). What I have seen PCshop have strict admins who follow to code. I dont think SKE admins would be able to work with how PCshop runs

    3) Tirant is doing a good job and all his staff is able to do what is needed to keep it up and running. No need to take over complete ownership to change nothing?

    4) I believe one of the main reasons this is beneficial for PCshop is because Aleya will be paying 50% of bills + giving free servers

    5) Once/If aleya cant continue with her contract this will end in failure ultimately leading in pcshop getting the bad end of the deal.

    I have posted a similar post on SKE forums but directed towards aleya. I know im not a PCSHOP member but I do play the servers and feel this is unnneded

    Quoted for truth.

    However, the only thing they have that's even REMOTELY attractive is the funding. But we're totally gravy on funding with plenty of money and admin sales as it is. Not to mention I can think of about 5 members (maybe more) who will donate at a moments notice if asked. So money's not even an issue.


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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by tIdAL_WaVE.l|3 on Wed 11 May 2011, 10:08 pm

    It is an interesting proposal but I personally don't feel the urge to jump on this.

    I don't like the idea of handing our servers and mods over to you in exchange for your financial support. Nor do I like the idea of your community members having admin to the servers as well they don't know shit about it. I mean we don't even give all our PCSHOP members admin to the servers, so what would make us trust your people?

    It is a privilege to wear the PCSHOP tag and in no way gives them the right to have admin. Some of our members paid to have admin in servers.

    On top of this I have not heard of your community or any of your subsidiaries(with the exception of SKe)

    While I appreciate the offer I don't feel it is prudent to our needs.

    In short. No!


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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Ki-Lier on Wed 11 May 2011, 10:15 pm

    love your Tl;Dr tidal

    ske sucks they dont care about hackers in their servers...hell if i had admin lol their servers would become empty bcuz so many kids hack there...no joke so many members as well...its sad

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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Ki-Lier on Wed 11 May 2011, 10:20 pm

    HAI NIKKI!!!
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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by squareknot20 on Wed 11 May 2011, 11:03 pm

    ahahai just went and reread this..
    I claim full ownership and acccess of PCSHOP servers & forum but runs the management side closely with Tirant.


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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by iCookies on Wed 11 May 2011, 11:27 pm

    ^ no need to use such profanity. god damn, be civil about this. she came at us with the utmost respect so she should be given respect in return.

    after reading everything, i disagree. too many bad experiences with merging.

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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by j0p@p@ on Wed 11 May 2011, 11:34 pm

    iCookies wrote:^ no need to use such profanity. god damn, be civil about this. she came at us with the utmost respect so she should be given respect in return.

    after reading everything, i disagree. too many bad experiences with merging.


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    Unless we are hard up for the money i do not think this is needed.


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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Fuzzy Bear on Thu 12 May 2011, 12:32 am

    i disagree as well, i 've seen Ske members, they are online kids, though i disapprove the way some people have answered back to aleya as she came in most civil manner and just asking us for what she thinks will be good, but having other people who we dont know have admin or be part of us is not good at all. i heard about aleya with a guy who has a "community" named |EM| and aleya provided him with a server.


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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Tirant on Thu 12 May 2011, 12:49 am

    I'll leave this post online for now so more people can talk, but please don't cuss her out and use swear words. A polite "no" or "anti-vouch" is enough.


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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by eaturpye on Thu 12 May 2011, 1:00 am

    No thank you, Miss Nikki. The community is doing fine on it's own, but thanks for the offer =]
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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by pa.p.er on Thu 12 May 2011, 3:02 am

    Admittedly, PCSHOP is not as popular as it once was, it is currently stale. The idea of populating their servers is a great one, and I think it's what Tirant wants for his new mod. Also, not having to worry too much about finances is a good thing for Anon and crew. But, PCSHOP is more like a mom and pop store that's just down the street, they're friendly and remember you, even say hi to you when you're just passing by and not buying anything. I think that's how it is for the current members, some of whom no longer play in the servers, but keep coming for the friendly, family-like welcome. I'm sure the PCSHOP members would like the servers populated again, myself included, but I think they want to do it on their own (strong-armed by Tirant and his modding skills of course), even if it may take a while. It may be difficult to keep that mom and pop like feel if PCSHOP populates its servers again, but it looks like the idea of becoming a Wal-Mart isn't appealing at this time. If Anon says money isn't an issue currently, then losing control of PCSHOP for that reason just doesn't make sense.
    I've actually played in your SKe servers, and the problems in those servers are things that PCSHOP doesn't need quite just yet, or ever. I will not go into details as it just sounds like I'm criticizing or insulting your servers when you haven't, at least not directly from what I can see, done so to PCSHOP. I am not speaking for PCSHOP as I simply cannot, but I think whatever the future brings them; good, bad, or boring, it will ultimately be of PCSHOP's own doing, and I think that's how they want to keep it.
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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Guest on Thu 12 May 2011, 3:29 am

    I guess with the response post I've read through from you guys the answer is a definite no. Though to be honest that I'm a bit upset, I am sure somehow directly or indirectly PCSHOP and Colosseum can work together not only to improve our gaming community individually, but more importantly to bring a whole new meaning to cs 1.6 community. I have promised my members that Colosseum will live for as long as I take charge of it, and I would like to see PCSHOP remain strong as well as we march through hard times. I will continue to have the casual talks with Tirant to discuss new mods and projects that is underway. While at that, I wish PCSHOP all the best and I hope you guys will welcome members from SKe, sS, AiC and etc as much as we welcome everyone in our servers.

    I'd never thought I could be able to manage a big community like Colosseum and see itself come this far..and with this in mind, I told my members to always open their heart to everyone that visits our forums and servers..

    The time has come to exceed the expectations of not just ourselves, but of every player we serve..
    The time has also come to exceed the expectations of those we work with..our staffs, our admins..our friends..in doing so, our support for each other will lead to an unforgettable gaming experience for our players.. An experience that surpasses the expectations of any CS 1.6 gaming community in the world..can we do it?..the answer does not lie outside, but within us...

    Expanding the community to the next level is a promise to always strive to improve..it is a commitment to always surprise and delight our players at every touchpoint..everyone plays a role..the servers we serve can be amazing..the mods can be very unique..our reliability and performance can be world class..to put it simply, all this endless efforts comes down to the simple act of being nice..nice to those we serve, and nice to those we work with..

    Finally, where we set our hearts and minds on being true to ourselves on expanding this community..our future success is assured. and I honestly believe, both PCSHOP and Colosseum will be the best CS community in the world.

    Together we will keep crossing oceans, moving mountains, and surpassing every challenge in our way..

    Yours,
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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by trip` on Thu 12 May 2011, 3:34 am

    ^too long to read with a lot of metaphors etc.

    Thank you for the offer Nikki
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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by Rain. on Thu 12 May 2011, 3:40 am

    I'll keep it short and simple :

    No.

    Now here's the not so short and simple explanation :

    Now...you used the word "ownership"...no one "owns" anything, we are a community, if we have something that concerns multiple members of our community or our servers, we vote on the issue. We are, if anything, a democracy, we do not need anyone claiming ownership over anything.


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    Re: Proposal of Claiming Ownership of PCSHOP Servers

    Post by trip` on Thu 12 May 2011, 3:46 am

    Rain. wrote:I'll keep it short and simple :

    No.

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